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	<title>Comments on: Enterprise vs&#8230;.not</title>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://blog.50micron.com/2008/06/22/enterprise-vsnot/comment-page-1/#comment-11504</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 22:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the type of anal-retentive I am.

My farm runs in vmware.

I use VCB (don&#039;t judge, I&#039;ve got it working like clockwork and backing up 15 VM&#039;s in about 90 minutes) to take a full copy of every VM, every night.  I then *ALSO* use a filesystem backup to capture the data on the drives so that I can protect customers against the &#039;oops I deleted x&#039;  Those backups are replicated offsite.  (The amount of bandwidth it would take to replicate the block-image-backups every night is too expensive, sadly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the type of anal-retentive I am.</p>
<p>My farm runs in vmware.</p>
<p>I use VCB (don&#8217;t judge, I&#8217;ve got it working like clockwork and backing up 15 VM&#8217;s in about 90 minutes) to take a full copy of every VM, every night.  I then *ALSO* use a filesystem backup to capture the data on the drives so that I can protect customers against the &#8216;oops I deleted x&#8217;  Those backups are replicated offsite.  (The amount of bandwidth it would take to replicate the block-image-backups every night is too expensive, sadly)</p>
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		<title>By: Nakarti</title>
		<link>http://blog.50micron.com/2008/06/22/enterprise-vsnot/comment-page-1/#comment-11503</link>
		<dc:creator>Nakarti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He doesn&#039;t need backups because he doesn&#039;t know what its like to be missing all his data. I used to be the same way (I am a server guy after all.)

Tell him two hard drives failed because of a short circuit and were replaced, he has no data. For one day. He will ask what you&#039;d use for backups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#8217;t need backups because he doesn&#8217;t know what its like to be missing all his data. I used to be the same way (I am a server guy after all.)</p>
<p>Tell him two hard drives failed because of a short circuit and were replaced, he has no data. For one day. He will ask what you&#8217;d use for backups.</p>
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		<title>By: SanGod</title>
		<link>http://blog.50micron.com/2008/06/22/enterprise-vsnot/comment-page-1/#comment-6292</link>
		<dc:creator>SanGod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They definitely do break their back when they need to.  When I did a tech-refresh / move last year and some of the Symms were old Symm 4.0 models.  When it was discovered that the RA boards that were shipped weren&#039;t supported by the particular model, they moved heaven and earth to get the correct boards overnighted to New Jersey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They definitely do break their back when they need to.  When I did a tech-refresh / move last year and some of the Symms were old Symm 4.0 models.  When it was discovered that the RA boards that were shipped weren&#8217;t supported by the particular model, they moved heaven and earth to get the correct boards overnighted to New Jersey.</p>
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		<title>By: duncane</title>
		<link>http://blog.50micron.com/2008/06/22/enterprise-vsnot/comment-page-1/#comment-6289</link>
		<dc:creator>duncane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who&#039;s ever had a presentation from an EMC salesman has seen the piccie of the symmetrix that fell through the raised floor and kept running (think it might have been at Nestle)

My favourite EMC story...

An engineer came to install some new FAs in one of our 8730s. He was following the &quot;script&quot; (back then the engineers had very rigid procedures they followed for everything - don&#039;t know if thats still the case), and ran into problems... the devices wouldn&#039;t install correctly. Next day the local regional specialist was onsite reviewing the problem with the engineer... the eventual upshot was - we can&#039;t install the FAs and we don&#039;t know why... so what did EMC do? Well 2 weeks later they rolled a whole new 8730 into the data centre and SRDF&#039;d everything across from the old one! Our project was held up a couple of weeks, and we had to take some short outages on some of our production systems, but the point was that they did what was required to get us around the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who&#8217;s ever had a presentation from an EMC salesman has seen the piccie of the symmetrix that fell through the raised floor and kept running (think it might have been at Nestle)</p>
<p>My favourite EMC story&#8230;</p>
<p>An engineer came to install some new FAs in one of our 8730s. He was following the &#8220;script&#8221; (back then the engineers had very rigid procedures they followed for everything &#8211; don&#8217;t know if thats still the case), and ran into problems&#8230; the devices wouldn&#8217;t install correctly. Next day the local regional specialist was onsite reviewing the problem with the engineer&#8230; the eventual upshot was &#8211; we can&#8217;t install the FAs and we don&#8217;t know why&#8230; so what did EMC do? Well 2 weeks later they rolled a whole new 8730 into the data centre and SRDF&#8217;d everything across from the old one! Our project was held up a couple of weeks, and we had to take some short outages on some of our production systems, but the point was that they did what was required to get us around the issue.</p>
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